23 September, 2020

Across the Editions — The Reaction Table

Not what I had in mind when I googled my post topic.

The Reaction Table is one of my favourite elements of old-school D&D.  The idea of not moving straight to combat with a random encounter, but assuming that the creatures have agency and so their own ideas of how things might go down is a wonderful idea that leads to vastly more varied gameplay.

The idea of how the Reaction Table should function has not been consistent across D&D editions; I'm going to take a look at the differences, with the hope of drawing some useful lessons for my own efforts.

 

OD&D 


Despite the above, monsters automatically attack unless they're both intelligent and confronted by an "obviously superior force".  As such, the table doesn't actually come into play all that often.  Otherwise, it's definitely the simplest reaction table, very easy to use, albeit with no advice as to how to adjudicate results.

Reaction Adjustment: None (Charisma has no effect on the roll, even if using the Greyhawk supplement).

 

AD&D 1st Edition 

 
 
 
AD&D moves to percentile, as is often the case with that work: Gygax seems to have preferred a greater granularity with most things by the time he put it together.  It's fairly straightforward, with the exception of the Uncertain results, which require subrolls to see if they are further inclined towards negative / positive (something I'm not fond of: I'd prefer to adjudicate everything with the single roll).  Surprisingly, for an otherwise generally verbose book, there is no further advice or conditionals laid on top, not even OD&D's brief note about the power of bribes, fear, and alignment.
 
Here encounters specifically only apply to intelligent creatures which can be conversed with.
 
Reaction Adjustment: -25% (Charisma 3); +35% (Charisma 18) 

An interesting side effect of the AD&D system is that Paladins, with their minimum Charisma of 17 (+30%), will literally never encounter immediately hostile intelligent creatures if the two can understand one another (and reaction is not predetermined), and have a 35-40% chance of enthusiastic greetings from such.  As such, the crusading, purging holy warrior also tends to leave a trail of magical friendship in his wake.  It also means that it's in the interest of a Paladin (or any other high-Charisma character) to speak as many languages as possible, as the ability only triggers with creatures that can be conversed with.  A high Int score (or some sort of Tongues item) is a godsend to such, rewarding what nominally might be considered dump stats on many characters.
 

AD&D 2nd Edition

 

2nd edition has a reputation for cleaning up some of 1st ed's wonkiness, but in my experience it tends to improve only the clarity of the text.  In terms of mechanical subsystems, it delights in baroque complication almost as much as 1st, and in some cases even more so.  Here we've switched to a 2D10 table (rather than percentile), with the players' base attitude being the primary factor.  Why there needed to be a Threatening vs a Hostile column I don't know, but if players want to be murderhobos (as 2nd ed tends to encourage, since combat became the primary XP source in 2nd unless the DM really embraced the vague story-based XP reward concept or used the now-optional gold for XP rules), then they have a base 36% chance of immediate hostility, the highest chance by far in any system featured here.

One of the most important things the table assumes is that hostility is the "good" result.  That is, hostility is the highest result in the chart, so that any positive chart modifiers lead the players towards it (well, mostly: see Reaction Adjustment below).  This is true even if the players want to be friendly: a friendly approach only reduces the range of possible hostile results.  Similarly, while I don't see the need for a Hostile column separate from a Threatening column, altering the latter so that flight is the highest result would at least make room for a charismatic intimidator.  As it is, there's little difference between the two except that if Threatening you still have a 3% chance of bullying someone into being your friend.

At the same time, the 2nd ed reactions are the most nebulous aside from OD&D.  Even hostile is coded only as "Irritable, hot-tempered, aggressive, or violent": that is to say, there are no behaviours mandated by the results, only attitudes.  However, these rules don't have the same restriction on communication and creature intelligence that the earlier systems do.  As such, it's easy to assume you roll reaction for wolves and the like just as much as you would bandits, although the DMG suggests that "The creatures should act in the manner the DM thinks is most appropriate to the situation" and that you should only use reaction when you don't "have a clue about what the monsters will do."  Considering combat is much more the norm in 2nd ed, I suspect that most campaigns went with DM inclination, that inclination being "attack".

Overall, I can see the value in having a player-directed reaction table, but not in four categories and having Charisma behave in such a monolithic, unintuitive fashion.

Reaction Adjustment: -5 (Charisma 3); +7 (Charisma 18).  It looks at first glance as though the chart tends towards hostility as the "positive" option, so that someone more charismatic is more likely to get into an immediate battle, even if they don't want to (i.e. their initial approach is Friendly).  This is because Reaction Adjustments from Charisma are written so that high Charisma provides a positive modifier, and low Charisma a negative.  However, the text in the PHB on p. 17 (the page before the Charisma chart), though written in natural language, makes it (largely) clear that in this one case the modifiers should be reversed.  In other words, the -5 from having Charisma 3 (for example) would be applied in this case as a positive modifier to the roll (making a hostile result more likely), and a bonus applied as a negative (making a friendly result more likely).  However, other modifier types, such as the morale based ones, are applied in the opposite (standard) fashion (i.e. high = adds, low = subtracts).  It's a baffling implementation, only clarified in the Complete Wizard's Handbook, of all places: errata never tackled this.  (Thanks to commentators below for highlighting this so that I could edit this portion).


Holmes / Moldvay Basic


Clean, simple, and straightforward, this system originated in Holmes.  The use of 2D6 effectively creates a curve leading towards the confused monster result (44.42% of the time), which suggests that most monsters of the world are baffled by the existence of adventurers and means that most of the time the initiative lies with the players.  (The image is from Moldvay; Holmes notes the 6-8 result as "Uncertain, make another offer, roll again").

Holmes and Moldvay, like 2nd ed, don't place the restrictions of OD&D and 1st ed about only applying to certain subtypes of monsters and situations (beyond specific monsters such as zombies).  The entirety of the relevant section is given above: there's no further advice.  Unlike 2nd, however, the reaction roll is given as an equal option to predetermined reactions, not a fallback.

Reaction Adjustment: None in Holmes.  -2 (Charisma 3); +2 (Charisma 18) in Moldvay.  All you need is a Charisma of 13 to avoid all possible immediate attack results (though admittedly these only occur 1 in 36 times anyways).  A Charisma of 18 gets you a 1 in 6 chance of enthusiastic friendship for every encounter.


Mentzer Basic (Red Box)


People are fond of saying that Mentzer and Moldvay are the same, the only difference being formatting, but this is not the case: reaction is one area where they notably differ, as seen above.

I dislike this system as it falls back to a 1st edition sin that Holmes/Moldvay dodged: the reaction re-roll.  It actually triples down on this: rolling a 3-5, for instance, gets a possible attack, but you need to roll again, and if you roll 9-12, you have to roll yet again.  Your possible attack could thus turn into friendship.  I again see the value in varied results, but not via such a clumsy implementation; I'd prefer a reworked version of 2nd edition's master table if I was going for that.  It does have the advantage of giving more guidelines than Holmes/Moldvay, however, including a little advice on negotiations.

Reaction Adjustment: -2 (Charisma 3); +2 (Charisma 18).  The notes given for Holmes/Moldvay in this section apply here as well.  However, unlike Holmes/Moldvay, Charisma adjustments only apply if the players can talk to the monster.  There is also a specific allowance made for character reactions, with the same -2 / +2 range of possible reaction adjustments suggested for this, which is cumulative with any Charisma modifier.  It's not clear if you apply your modifier(s) to every subroll, or just the first roll in the series.

 

Rules Cyclopedia / The Classic Dungeons & Dragons Game


1991's New Easy to Master Dungeons & Dragons Game (TSR 1070) and 1994's The Classic Dungeons & Dragons Game (TSR 1106), the final gasps of old-school D&D base rules implementation, each use the same table.  By changing the instant attack result from 2 to 2-3, immediate hostility moves from about 2.5% of the time to about 8%.  Adding 1 at the start bumps everything else up by 1, which due to the nature of the 2D6 curve makes possible attack/monster growls more likely and uncertain/cautious less likely even if the number of results stays the same, until we get to the "possibly friendly" result, which is now only 10-11 instead of Mentzer's 9-11.  Overall, this table version walks back from the nested subcomplexities of Mentzer, but still relies on re-rolls.  The nature of the 2D6 scale means that a 4-point modifier is huge, making it very likely for you to achieve the result it's pushing you towards.  Still, it is possible you could wind up rolling several times.  Both books state to not roll more than three times, however.  "If the PCs don't do something to get a reaction (talk to it, or attack it, or put it to sleep—something) by the third roll, the monster attacks if the roll was 9 or less (remember to take into account the monster's alignment).  It just leaves if the result was between 10 and 12."

"Monsters" here are specifically defined as anything that isn't an NPC / doesn't have a character class.  As such, the reaction roll is very clearly applicable for most anything in the game.

1991's Rules Cyclopedia also uses the above table, only changing the wording on the first part of result 10-11 to "monster is neutral".  Like Mentzer, it also suggests a -2 / +2 allowance for character reactions, which its more introductory 90s brethren skip.  It oddly decides to be less granular than the intro products, however, if three rolls occur: "If by the third roll the monster hasn't achieved a roll of 10 or better, it will decide to attack or leave."  Interestingly, it is the only ruleset that uses subrolls to rule on when Charisma adjustments apply: they are only used for rolls after the first.  As such, if you get an initial hostile result, no amount of Charisma will save you.  Essentially, the initial reaction is as-is, but if the room for negotiation is there, charm (or the lack thereof) can come to the fore.  I like this a lot, although by being able to stack Charisma adjustments and player behaviour adjustments to these later rolls, it's pretty easy to swing the 2D6 scale in your favour.

Reaction Adjustment: -3 (Charisma 3); +3 (Charisma 18).  Unless using the Cyclopedia, with an 18 Charisma one can avoid any "monster attacks" results, and it's not clear if you apply your modifier to every subroll, or just the first roll in the series.  Also unless using the Cyclopedia, a Charisma of 18 gets you a better than 1 in 4 chance of a friendly result with every encounter.

 

What I Use 

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I wanted results that reflected monster alignment, clear statements of intent about what each reaction means, no nested rolls, and some decent guidelines as to when to use the rolls and how to modify them.  As such, I've gone with a basic 2D6 scale, matching Holmes and Moldvay (and thus maintaining compatibility with products designed for such).  Sometimes I've gone with major changes when implementing a common subsystem, but I really felt in this case that if it isn't broken, why fix it?  The only mechanical change I introduced is a roll penalty for dealing with Evil creatures and an accompanying hostility re-roll when generally dealing with Good ones.

My main "alterations" have been in presenting firm guidelines as to how the system is meant to work: not just when to use it, but what specifically happens when you do.  Holmes and Moldvay were very weak here, lacking the solid advice of Mentzer or even the 1990s efforts.  I wanted a GM to be able to readily able to apply this at the table.

I don't use Charisma modifiers, so the table results stand as they are, which is also a key structural change.  This was because I wanted to completely leave social interactions to roleplaying and random rolls, without even a stat influencing them.  I have nothing specific against Charisma: this was just something I wanted to do here.

There is a note about an "Ambushed" result in the text.  That is because I introduced a basic encounter structure table, specifically for outdoor encounters, meant to adjudicate the general tactical situation so as to provide some encounter variety.  It's possible that the encounter begins with the monsters springing an ambush on the party, and so I wanted to make sure that such a situation was covered.  I'll examine that in a future update.

I must admit to being tempted by the prospect of a cleaned up and more rational 2nd ed approach, and having written this up I am again, but for now I'm sticking with the Holmes/Moldvay interpretation.  I may come back to this, however.

10 comments:

  1. Hi, instead of re-rolling for Good creatures, I would add +1 to the roll. It eliminates the immediate hostile result, and is mor elegant, removing a roll.

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  2. Szabtom: I considered that, but I didn't want to improve the chance of scoring a Friendship result, which is a very useful result to have. On reflection though, the number of times that a party encounters Good creatures is actually quite few, so maybe that's the better way (though re-rolling once every 36 rolls made exclusively for Good creatures is itself so rare that eliminating it might not even save yourself one roll a campaign).

    I'll think it over. Thanks!

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  3. I think you misinterpret the high charisma positive/negative reaction modifiers for 2e (PHB Table 6). The text accompanying Table 6 indicates minus equal penalty and plus equals bonus. The positive/negative values associated with the morale modifier work out nicely for your follower morale checks as is. Yes, the DMG isn't clear, but you're meant to subtract the high charisma 'bonus' from you 2d10 roll on the reaction table, to skew the result more 'friendly'. From the examples given for Table 6, having a low charisma should lead to penalties in reactions. And yes, to use the modifier without this correction in logic, the table would need to be re-sorted in reverse order.

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    1. Taking a look at that text I think you're right. Really not the best way of laying it all out (since the text is in natural language and on the previous page besides, and isn't referenced/clarified in the DMG on top of that), but I can't see how you'd figure it any other way. Thanks for the note: I'll adjust the post accordingly.

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  4. Minor correction: the AD&D2e reaction tables are rolled using 2d10, and so the probability of rolling a 13 is not 5% but instead 8%. The probability of rolling a 20 is only 1% (needing a 10 plus another 10). The probability of rolling a 13 or higher is 8% + 7% + 6% + 5% + 4% + 3% + 2% + 1%

    Thus, "then they have a 40% chance of immediate hostility" is incorrect (slightly off in value, wildly off in method of calculation).

    Another correction: in the PHB an example is given of "Rath encounters a centaur, an intelligent creature. Rath's Charisma is only 6 [which has a Reaction Adjustment of -2], so he is starting off with one strike against him. He probably should try to overcome this slight handicap by making generous offers of gifts or information."

    Neither the PHB nor the DMG actually explains how the Reaction Adjustment is meant to be mechanically applied, but from that example one might intuit that a negative adjustment would bias the result to the higher numbered reactions (i.e. hostility).

    Later, in the Complete Wizard's Handbook, there is

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  5. [argh]

    Later, in the Complete Wizard's Handbook, there is a section titled "A Note About Reaction Adjustments", and it reads thusly:
    "When rolling 2d10 for encounter reactions (see page 103 in the Dungeon Master's Guide), do not add the bonus or subtract the penalty from the die roll. If the character has a Charisma of 16, thus receiving a +5 reaction adjustment, subtract that number from the die roll — do not add it. Otherwise, the more Charisma a character has, the worse the reaction of the NPCs."

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    1. [sigh, I shoulda signed in so I could edit/delete]

      To be fair, the rolled result is also modified by the morale situational modifiers of Table 50 (in Chapter 9: Combat). There, positive modifiers are presented for things like "Outnumber opponent 3 or more to 1 (+2)" and "Creature is fighting hated enemy (+4)" .. which logically would contribute to a more likely hostile reaction. It's just the Charisma Reaction Adjustment modifier values that are applied in reverse. Bah humbug.

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    2. I'd missed that Wizard's Handbook note despite owning the book back in the day, so thanks for this (and the math notes). I'll be updating the post to reflect this.

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  6. Thanks for this, very useful. I've been trying to work out a reaction table that would be useful for PC-NPC interactions in general. I like the flexibility of the 2e table but it's rather a lot. I wonder if a modifier for stance and a single column could work?

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    1. I think that would work well. Most of the time the rules suggest to apply modifiers based on the players' actions, but it's all very handwavey and up to the GM. hardcoded stance modifiers are something I've not seen done and would dodge the cumbersome 2nd ed approach.

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